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  1. Answering such questions is dangerous for the rating… Chanti Binks became the face of the “triggered” meme for a reason. Those who consider themselves feminists tend to look for a catch where there is none (History = his story and other incidents). The patriarchal views that they struggle with are a purely individual and far-fetched phenomenon in many developed countries, so they can say what they don't have. This is not so much the fault of the feminists themselves, but of the Tumblergirls, who turn a current with a very clear ideology into an incomprehensible subculture. Perhaps, in this way, one of the girls attracts attention or justifies its absence by the current situation. It is normal practice to look for reasons for some failures on the side or to feel part of a certain community, even if you do not understand the values that this community is trying to protect (as another example – religion).

    If we talk about the real violation of human rights on the basis of gender, especially in countries where this is difficult, then we can only remind feminists of the lack of universal morality. Although their ideas for society could be useful.

  2. I think every generation thought there was something wrong with feminists.)

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  3. I'm not going to analyze foreign feminism, but let me describe what is happening in Russia today.

    Similar questions have already been asked:
    — Why is it considered shameful and humiliating in Russia to talk about feminism and be a member of this movement?
    — Why does feminism have such a negative image in the CIS countries and when did it appear?
    — What does feminism lack to become mainstream right now?

    In order not to offend adequate feminists (in whom I have great faith), I will clarify that the text below refers to virtual feminists. I will try to present my thoughts in a form that is accessible to a person who is far from feminist discourse.

    Russia needs feminism, just as the country needs a generation of energetic and determined, free and independent women (confident in themselves, and not nodding at the” wrong ” men today and the crisis of masculinity in the country) but the chaotic mass that can be called the feminist movement is full of flaws that only spoil the image of feminism in the eyes of the public.

    • There is no clear and unified opinion on the fundamental issues.
      – – – Is feminism just about fighting against the oppression of women?
      Is a woman always the default victim of circumstances?
      – – – In any unclear situation, we will protect the woman?
      Can we point out to her that some of the blame really lies with her , or is this already victimblaming (accusing the victim of “self-blame” only on the basis that she is a victim)?
      Where is the limit beyond which a woman's choice leads to her loss of independence?
      Does a feminist need a career?
      — What is the root cause of prostitution-1. men's lust and desire to buy power over a woman, 2. men's sexual difficulties in everyday life, 3. both (look at the situation)? Should prostitution be legalized? If not, where should sex workers seek protection?
      Split the bill, split the bill in half, or still let the feminists decide for themselves, including the ability to pay for a man and choose an active position in the relationship*? (* At the same time, the woman has the right to be a slave and allow the man to close the account alone.)

    This sense of understatement leads to curiosities and paradoxes when there are opposing approaches within the fem environment. Well, where without them, to the wrong interpretations, according to various trends of feminism, – a woman is disenfranchised vs. a woman is completely free.
    * The lack of an activist core that would consolidate the resources of feminists and prepare policy articles.

    There is a difference between a communist and a communist – one simply supports communist ideas, the other is a member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

    Feminists do not have any information and political institution, and on the one hand, it is great that any woman can be called a feminist, but such anarchy leads to the dispersion of activist resources (along with subsequent burnout), insinuations, and the emergence of marginal trends.
    * Inability to participate in discussions, inadequate response to criticism or the slightest disagreement. If you want to make feminism better and point out its mistakes, you will be immediately put in the enemy camp. Vulgar generalizations about “men don't like feminists” are common, and those who doubt the party line are simply banned in fem groups. “We are the good ones, and there are the bad ones.” This is one of the reasons why feminism is poorly represented in the public space, but, unfortunately, it is far from the only one.
    * Ignoring male discrimination and selective treatment of gender stereotypes about men. And for show. In fact, feminism stands for gender equality, not for a fight on gender grounds, not for the Internet Olympics “Who is more oppressed”. However, many feminists claim that feminism is pro – women and pro-women. But something unimaginable is happening about men, so this “feminism” turns into female chauvinism with a flick of the wrist-supremacism. So, we open the fem-manual: “A feminist is one who supports (only) women.” “There can be no reverse sexism in principle, because women do not have the institutional power to discriminate against men,” “Thousands of women are killed by men, while the main source of violence against other men is men themselves.”

    You won't get a neutral response from them: “A man doesn't owe anyone anything. Specifically, we do not have enough resources to deal with men's issues and gender stereotypes concerning men, but it is certainly unacceptable that the pressure on men is enormous. And this is reflected in women. We are for men to rethink their place in the world and in the future, for men to become part of the women's movement and help themselves.”

    In a country where men are mowed down by whole battalions of alcoholism, where hazing raged in the army for decades (so many guys stupidly bought higher education diplomas, entering the paid department of the university, just to legally mow down for five years, and then carried the last blood money for an excuse), and the question “Did you serve?!”it is an indicator of masculinity; where it is still considered that a man should be a breadwinner* and a flint … -here feminism immediately puts itself in a marginal position.�

    • In a country where, despite the fixed equality, a man must invest financially in a relationship, because ” a woman relies on instincts and looks for a male with the best genes-able to feed her family.” Who pays for whom is, unfortunately, a source of endless holivars. More precisely, the controversy quickly descends to “why can't a man pay for a cup of coffee ordered by a woman?” – – – “why can't he buy flowers?” “and it turns into a sermon about how 'a greedy man isn't sexy'.”

    This is-think about it! – in a country where many people grew up in “same-sex” families – with their mother and grandmother. Here we need to understand the social phenomenon of single mothers, what is wrong with men, why we die like flies, leave our families, and why women suffer from this…

    In a country where a lot of women are already feminists involuntarily, because they have to play a traditionally male role (to some in the family, to some in business and at work) – and then they suffer in kitchens, in fitness halls, blogs … that “a man crushed”!!!

    However, virtual feminism does not notice this in general. Despite the obvious sources of male aggression against women, it is difficult for men to meet modern requirements. In public posts, groups, and femme communities, you can come across an undisguised fear of discussing men's rights. Imaginable barriers are being erected to the masculine issue and the broad discussion of toxic masculinity along with gender inequality.
    / Try to be a pro-feminist and offer to fight for the rights of men and against sexism and discrimination against them, for a complete revision of male social roles – you will immediately be banned, and in particularly clinical cases you will also be declared a “masculine”– – “prischemlenets”, informing about you in closed fem groups: “beware, a werewolf takes away women's tribune and resources to fight patriarchy.”

    Together with the water, the child was also thrown out.

    And all the reflection on men comes down, along the way, to #mamamalchik's meme – posts by feminists about how they raise their sons. Well, there is also a paragraph in the feminist manual about the post-war generation of women, when thousands of men died at the front or were physically injured, so that any man was supposedly valued in the countryside at that time. The fact that more than 70 years have passed since then (se-mi-de-xia-ti!) years, predictably ignored.

    The highlight of the program is that Mom's feminist can search for herself and not have “mundane” goals in life, and you get out, you sad little shit. Another “Amazon” can look out from behind the mighty back of her husband (what is it like, by the way, to live with a man-hater? or is she so brave on the Internet?) and fight against the exploitation of women, and you get out again, trash. The pinnacle of hypocrisy is when a feminist gives her partner more free conditions than men in general.

    Combos from the points above are forbidden topics in discussions within feminism that activists try not to touch, suggest postponing their decision until better times (the victory of feminism), or cover in a one-sided way. For example, male and female requests for carriers of XY chromosomes are shown http://www.феминизм.ru he prefers not to notice or exaggerates that this is something like a statistical error, while most women are supposedly deprived of such liberties.

    They don't discuss gender inequality in sex and romance. Virtual feminists reduce the dogma “a man should take the first step and be able to take care of a woman” to “as long as men do not offend women, take into account their needs and do not behave like sexists” – but not to the fact that “a woman can also take the first step if she likes men and play an active role in relationships.”

    Some activists in general cynically defend traditional sexist gender roles for straight men – and not a word about real queer (the concept of freedom from gender) and reverse roles.

    In short, it is not adult feminism that recognizes the diversity of others.

    This is not the feminism of a strong, self-sufficient and autonomous woman who believes in herself.

    • Also a combo – a departure from equality towards the rights of women and LGBT people, numerous (and sometimes comical) barriers for heterosexual pro-feminist men. It's easier to pass face-control in an expensive nightclub and rent a girl there or enroll in MGIMO on a budget, than to become your own for today's feminists. If we assume that men, like women, make up half of the population, then the “Amazons” actually exclude millions of people from helping to solve the women's issue.

    Virtual girls artificially push feminism into a very narrow ideological and political framework, without thinking, it seems, about popularizing the platform.
    * Not a word about equal responsibility. Women's manipulations and whims are almost not condemned or highlighted in the perspective of male irresponsibility-female helplessness. This shameless cynicism remains unpunished, and given that the main task of Russian virtual feminism is not to fight for equality, but to scold men, the image of feminism is being undermined once again.
    * Lack of practical activism. At most, there are crisis centers for women in large cities and small educational events. As far as I can tell, the femm movement does not associate itself with supporting women's careers, does not conduct lectures and master classes on this topic-only Irina Khakamada seems to travel around the country and promote post-feminism in order to somehow reach out to conservative Russians.

    At the same time, strings of our ladies carry money to the cashier of marriage, Vedic and just vyviglazny trainings, listening to uniform nonsense about the true purpose, a special female path and the art of serving her husband / manipulating men. I must say that these women are not from the lowest strata at all. Harmful books about�women who pretend to be useful: “I'll lose weight for you”, “50 rules for a smart fool” and�others-Meduza

    It would seem that here is a fertile audience that can be converted to feminism, give them hope and inspire that women are self-sufficient regardless of men.

    However, http://www.феминизм.ru Apparently, he doesn't even try to make contact with women from the beau monde or figure out why celebrities and just successful women reject the very idea that they will be mentioned in the light of emancipation.

    Lawsuits in connection with corporate discrimination on the basis of gender, harassment – the fate of singles.�

    But virtual girls continue to torture the keyboard: gender gap, unequal pay, a dress code for women that turns them into sex dolls, hungry and oblique glances from men… We open the manual: at interviews, women are allegedly often brought down because “we will hire you, and you are on maternity leave”; and not because of insufficient qualifications and inability to bargain for a normal salary.

    But the problem wasn't that the fat-ass uncle was having orgies with models and groping random women's vaginas. The problem is that women will always get in line for such men and suffer humiliation, because this is a social elevator. Unfortunately, it is not noticeable that the femm movement seeks to create an alternative, to encourage women to become oligarchs themselves, and to help those ladies who have already achieved a lot. After all, in business, the police, the prosecutor's office, the TFR, the judicial system, government bodies, banks and enterprises… – there are enough women, who need support and can be practical feminists.

    However, it is not the lack of social elevators for women that concerns the Amazons, but rather the fact that fat-bag uncles “exploit” models and express sexist thoughts; which is bad, of course, but it is a consequence, not a cause.

    • Antisocial behavior, isolationism, unwillingness to integrate into society-and as a result, there is still an ambiguous perception of feminism. Virtual feminists categorically deny, for example, the high level of female employment or explain that “this is not good enough.” So, radical feminists prefer to wait until the man-reptilians themselves give up power – or until women suddenly begin to see the light en masse. This is also the sin of other areas of feminism, for some reason leveling a woman to the level of a disenfranchised-silent slave. At least they would read Pushkin's fairy tales again, or something. However, it is much easier for clickers from the Internet to arrogantly shout ” patriarchal girls!”.

    The abundance of fake accounts like Frozen Mgla or Lackluster Cup in fem groups should also not surprise you.
    * Children of Africa and the SJW agenda. Global women's solidarity is certainly more important than the Russian gender landscape. Here is “America shudders at Trump's misogynistic actions”, here in some European country a scandal broke out because of sexist statements by a public figure or advertising, here in another European country there was a study about the “glass ceiling”, here is an article about trafficking (human trafficking) about women in Asia, here are British scientists who found that… For a moment, it would not hurt us to deal with the Soviet heritage (after all, there was no feminism in the USSR).

    This also includes blind copying of the ideas of Western feminism-with “white heterosexual men” as the most privileged group. It is obvious how far the anti-racist agenda abroad is from the Russian reality, where few people care about the titular nation (the share of Russians among the entire population is around 80%), and some ethnic diasporas have a powerful political and economic weight in the “Russian” regions.
    * Discrediting the institution of heterosexual relations. Detective skills of virtual feminists will be the envy of any detective. Code words: abuse, perverse narcissist, egalitarian relationships(medicine).

    Perhaps even the most extreme patriarchy in a remote village has not done so much to intimidate women as the proud faces of Russian “feminism”. One endless whining about the mudakovatoe mudlo, a census of episodes of one or another violence against women (sometimes imaginary) and lamentations about the heavy female dolyushka in Rossiyushka.

    In their opinion, the lion's share of women are guaranteed to have experienced violence, they simply cannot yet realize such a tragic fact of family life, or openly speak about it. Also women with a probability of 99.999…% served the man, even if the relationship with him was built on a parity and partnership basis. Helping around the house = serving; comforting, encouraging = serving; taking responsibility and making some decisions for two = serving… Etc… And almost all men are hidden rapists who absolutely do not think about sexual comfort and even more so the satisfaction of women.

    Methodologically, this is a tracing paper from the Western discourse, in which the sensitivity sensors are also twisted to the maximum in some places. Feel the oppression. And in fact, in fact, this has its own long-drawn truth, but in form it looks repulsive… It turns out as in the picture below, where the reaction of an ordinary person is shown first (like nothing terrible), and then there are 9 triggers according to feminism. Perhaps the tenth trigger is missing – the fact that the women in the picture are inside the society of men imposed on them and allegedly cannot interrupt communication with them. Again, there may actually be some triggers in reality (we don't know what tone men use to communicate with women in the picture), but not in the amount of nine at a time!

    Femkis not only do not offer constructive measures to normalize society and relations between M and W, they also turn the majority of people – or rather, the “heterosexual” majority-against themselves. And both sexes. Especially since-read the next paragraph. ⬇

    • Discrediting the image of a strong and independent woman. If idiots continue to scream about the damn ” 40 cats “(as a symbol of female loneliness) and humiliate women's dignity, then the “Amazons” themselves add fuel to the fire, fanning passions on the male issue. In their opinion, a modern woman either drags some bumpkin (after all, feminists supposedly can only dream of normal men, especially since, in their opinion, under patriarchy, competition for men is fierce, as it werestatistics did not suggest that there is actually a shortage of women in Russia 15—34 or trying to get along with a sexist person (“if you don't find someone who doesn't treat women as a lower class, show us”). The apogee of schizophrenia is the alleged inability to equip yourself with large household appliances (washing machine, dishwasher, washing vacuum cleaner with aquafilter, multi-cooker) in the age of credits on every corner and build personal boundaries with a man. “Muzherabstvo! Stop serving moodlo! Run away from him, sister.”

    Feminists who are supposed to give women a helping hand, teach them independence and autonomy, and help them believe in themselves … do not do this in practice – and almost zealously reject the opportunities that women have today.

    Instead of offering “sisters” advice on ensuring their own safety and strengthening their immunity to the attacks of retrogrades(k), our valiant virtual girls complain about patriarchy and conduct a census of verbal sexism and aggression. No matter how strong fakes are made against women and feminists in particular…

    At the same time, they turn the tables on the men themselves and on the patriarchy. For slatshaming: any woman who does not fit into the traditional framework of decency, according to the klikush, will immediately be branded from everywhere that she is a whore, a bad wife, and so on.

    How and when these archaic traditions will be broken is not reported.

    According to the rich logic of virtual femos, being strong and self-sufficient, strong-willed and energetic, and deciding who to share a bed with yourself means playing by the rules of patriarchy, oh horror! You're embedded in the system, Sister! You betrayed us!

    And, tellingly, where are the guides on how an emancipated heterosexual lady can seduce a man she likes? And there are none, by and large. It is easier to find a needle in a haystack than a safety manual for communicating with a man, drawn up in the spirit of equality and sexual freedoms.

    This is practically the same patriarchy, only version 2.0, side view.

    • The quintessence of the points above is the frenzied volumes of misogyny in femal communities, “internal” sexism coupled with phallocentrism aimed at other women. In particular, феминистки.ги in fact, they perpetuate patriarchal cliches about female inferiority-denying the very possibility that a woman can exist autonomously from anyone and still get satisfaction from heterosexual relationships, for example. Often in the speeches of the “Amazons” there is an invisible image of a man who allegedly accompanies female existence, suppresses female freedom and parasitizes it, allegedly inciting a lady to serve him. Undoubtedly, male manipulators do occur; however, by absolutizing this factor, “feminists” practically disavow women's right to complete freedom of expression. They do not make women subjects of the process (an active party), they objectify the carriers of XY chromosomes in their own way, assigning them a passive role.

    Screams about fucking muzherabstvo discredited women's initiative. As, in fact, and feminism in principle. Because complaining about the mediocre men you have to run after smells disgusting. And feminism is actually not about raising men (for this, go to wise women and women's forums), not about female domination, but about women having a choice.

    Here we will return to the first point. After all, there is no consensus in the femm movement on how to treat women's initiative regarding contacts with men. Expressed most radical position, until “at the expense of feminism men want free access to the female body” (in fact, such a feminist (!) justify Patriarchal (!!) requests to the men who imposed today's conservative “Chicks” (!!!), who don't want to decide anything, but I want a new dress; Oh, crap).

    Do conservative mores get in the way? Then enforce gender emancipation. Promote it. A woman is free and does not belong to anyone. She sleeps with whoever she wants. With whom she wanted – with those and meets. Myself. The first one. (She doesn't have to, but she can.) Choosing an adequate partner and ignoring the herd reflex. The first step is taken by the one who needs it, not the one with a penis.

    Yes, millions of women will thank feminists for their sexual liberation.�

    After all, today philistines with undisguised skepticism speak about the women's initiative not so much, probably, because they are afraid to hear from conservative men a lecture on morality, but because of the fear of losing buns in the form of beautiful courtship. Women often emphasize that they become hunters out of desperation. Or because a very promising man loomed on the horizon. However, both are extremes. But still, virtual feminists apparently don't even try to understand the motivations of ordinary women. It is much more convenient to write off everything as muzherabstvo, slatshaming and the men themselves, who are supposedly opposed to female emancipation.

    Smart logic, bgg. Men have power. But the Amazons don't seem to need women to have as much power. They insist that men suddenly have to share power themselves. Not “we don't care what the idiots and mom's alphas think of us,” but “we want the idiots and mom's alphas to shut up.” Do you understand the difference?

    At the same time, femkas without a twinge of conscience manage to justify women who are in toxic relationships and allegedly cannot get away from the abuser, although nothing prevents them (when there are no children or loan guarantees). �

    If this is feminism, then I am Borodino bread.�

    This is a clinic, because a real strong and independent woman is above the mouse fuss. A strong and independent woman is admirable by definition, because she does not despise men, does not need continuous care, does not try to manipulate the fact that “I am weak! Support me, you're a man!”, makes his own decisions and is proud of himself, his talent and achievements. Sexual life or refusal of sex, initiative in choosing a partner or partner, choice of career, vocation and appearance – this is the prerogative of a strong and independent woman.

    However, you can still quote the “feminist” manual for a long time…

    In summary, women are actually left to their own devices, and the femm movement is not at all concerned about its own image and attracting new supporters. No matter how rotten the conservative system (patriarchy) is, what it can give women is more obvious than the illusory benefits of the victory of feminism, which – at this rate-will fall on our old age.

    Due to the lack of serious achievements of feminism in Russian, attention is shifting to the shortcomings and contradictions in their platform. Moreover, there are a lot of blunders and gaps there…

    And against the background of this disgrace, you can still find “white crows”-sensible feminists who recognize that everyone suffers from the collapsed order in one way or another, and try to spread feminism outside of cozy public places and femme communities. There are even those who discourage other women from manipulative tactics and attempts to monetize their sexuality. But there are only a few of them.

    But supremacists and notorious sexists (about men) continue to discredit the reputation of feminism.

    If you exclude the shortcomings mentioned above, then, you will agree, the image of feminists will instantly change. I am sure that such a balanced feminism will have many more supporters and supporters.

    Nevertheless, feminism has not really exhausted itself, but it has undermined its own reputation – through the efforts of not the most intelligent of its adherents. Therefore, the future belongs to egalitarianism and the movement for gender equality. For equal rights, freedoms and opportunities. Where sharp corners are not covered up, there is no war of gender ambitions, and women and men can be themselves, get support and self-confidence. Where the other person's personal space, life, gender, and sexual experience are respected.

  4. Anything that becomes popular comes to the masses in an extremely simplified and distorted form, and in the case of ideologies that raise extremely acute issues-even in the most noticeable (and ridiculous) form.
    The degradation of feminism, as well as Marxism, anarchism, Christianity, Buddhism, or even bourgeois nationalism, is not so much the fault of feminists personally and not so much the cancer of feminism itself, as the consequence of the usual transformation of anything into a pop product. That's all.

  5. Everything is as it should be, there is an answer to any phenomenon. The feminist from Memsa, roughly speaking, exists as the opposite of radical patriarchal views, which, contrary to the fantasies of some, still exist in any society.�
    The only problem is that bad people are more visible.

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