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    This issue is often discussed, especially in the context of paganism. After all, there are many gods in our circles, and there are many pantheons, so we especially like to talk about what is primary and what is secondary. And yes, this way you can reach an unprovable and unprovable solipsism.

    What we usually agree on in our environment. All descriptions of the gods, that is, appearance, attributes, history of adventures and exploits, personality-the result of imagination and observation. Yes – not only imaginations, attributes are not taken from the ceiling, and always have a justification, if it were only fiction, there would be no comparative mythology, but the gods of different cultures have common features, and mythological plots of different cultures can also be similar. That is, the fact that in Iceland the thunderer is a red-bearded man riding on a chariot drawn by goats, and owning a very famous hammer, and in the same Greeks the thunderer does not own a hammer and goats, but has a high potency, and a slightly different position in his pantheon-this is the result of social aspects. These descriptions depend on the people, their lifestyle and society, and their different observations in Iceland or the Peloponnese. But here and there we can observe an objective fact – there is thunder, and therefore there is a thunderer. It is easier for us in this regard, because our gods manifest in the world, we can always find the manifestations of our gods in the world, the result of their activities. Indirectly providing proof of their existence. And we can be sure that there was thunder before man, as well as the thunderer. Just like the earth, sky, sun, rivers, and so on… And indeed, all these factors influenced the appearance of a person. We would not have appeared on earth without the earth, sun, sky, seas, oceans and so on, logically?

    Well, the very statement of such a question for believers doesn't make sense. If people created gods, then the gods are useless, because they are dependent on people. Meanwhile, throughout the history of mankind, people believed in the gods, and found in this a huge amount of use, often quite objective.

    This is a question that everyone decides for themselves, how to treat God – either as a human fiction, or as a Reality that is more real than people themselves.

    Of course, my answer, based on my experience, for which I am ready to take responsibility , is simple and unambiguous: God created people. But is this the answer you need? Is that what you wanted to know? I doubt.

    The reasons why I made the choice in favor of God can be discussed for a long time, so I will limit myself to a brief one: The God I believe in simply could not have been invented because It is not imaginable.

    Humanity during its existence has come up with a huge number of very diverse gods for itself.

    The whole point is that in the process of human evolution, fetalization (disproportionate neoteny) of his brain occurred. We all know that it is the CHILD's brain that receives, remembers, and assimilates information about the world around us most effectively. This is typical for both animals and humans. Therefore, if it is vital for an adult animal (including humans) to operate with a very large amount of information , then it is very important to increase the period of its general childishness, or at least the childishness of its brain. What happened, for example, during the domestication of the dog, or during the sapienization of humans.

    Back in the 18th century, Bolk compared humans to an immature monkey. Because humans, compared to apes, not only mature socially later, but their brains, and even their skulls, remain somewhat childish “immature” all their lives. Providing a person with successful development of new knowledge until a very old age.

    But, as it often happens in the process of evolution, useful adaptations lead to genetically related not very useful traits. Therefore, neoteny of the brain, together with children's receptivity to knowledge and information, has endowed a person with a child's need for an ADULT leader who takes responsibility for making responsible decisions. The child's need for a caring and strict parent.

    Therefore, a person (like a dog) has a BIOLOGICAL need for the presence of a super-animal with the characteristics of a parent. For a dog, such a person was found – this is a person. But man, being extreme in this chain, created God for himself.

    Moreover, the evolution of the image of God was gradual, consistent with the change in humanity's perception of themselves and, most importantly, with the social formation. Thus, monotheistic religions of the Abrahamic type could not have emerged earlier than the emergence of large city-states with an authoritarian ruler.

    Primitive people, who have very little reliable information about the real structure of the universe, assigned ancestors to the role of gods (supermen with the features of a caring but strict parent). Often-appointing their ancestors formidable or especially significant in their lives animals. An animistic cult was emerging.

    Later, with the advent of cattle breeding and agriculture, at least the relative development of culture and civilization – animal gods begin to acquire the features of people. We know this well from the gods of ancient Egypt. Numerous gods with animal heads: crocodile, cat, falcon, jackal, etc.

    The next stage in the evolution of the gods is the stage of “incarnation” when the gods are already fully human – but are able to turn into animals. Slavic paganism is a perfect example of this stage. Chernobog-lizard, Horse-Alkonost bird, Dazhbog-falcon, Veles-Gamayun, Lada-mother SVA bird (?), Perun-eagle, Semargl-Rarog falcon, Volkh-Finist, clear falcon…

    Further, animals become just companions of the gods. Greek and Roman mythologies show us this transition. “Do you remember windy Hebe, feeding the EAGLE of Zeus-a loud boiling cup from the sky, laughing on the ground spilled!”

    And in the process of all this evolution of the gods, the role and significance of the MAIN god of the pantheon increases.

    A religion that unites society (against other societies) has also taken on the role of uniting AROUND POWER.

    Therefore, the emergence of city-states required a religion with a single sovereign god – the sacralizing power of the minority over the majority. “One god in heaven , one king on earth!”

    The most promising were the Abrahamic forms of religion. First Judaism, then Christianity and Islam.

    The Jews invented their own god and religion FOR THEMSELVES. Therefore, reading the Old Testament, the basis of the Abrahamic religions (tracing paper from the Torah), we get acquainted with the deeds of the Jews… Their adventures in Egypt, their expectations of the Messiah… And their concept of themselves as God's chosen people. However, since Judaism turned out to be an almost ideal religion for ruling the “plebs” – with its cult of earthly suffering and retribution only in the” other life”, it soon undergoes a transformation-spreading to other peoples. Adapting to their mentality – which was especially well expressed in the formation of branches-Christianity and Islam (which include many trends within themselves).

    Therefore, there is no doubt that people invented God for themselves. The history of the development of religions is all the more well known, as are the epistemological roots of Judaism and Christianity.

    We know what sources the Bible is based on. How it was reformed, taking on a modern look – how the “apocrypha” – which the people in power considered superfluous, or distorting the meaning of religious teaching they NEEDED – were separated from it…

    Even the story of Christ itself is a compilation of many previous myths…

    The gods are inextricably linked to the peoples who invented them and worship them. “No god has yet outlived his worshippers” S. Letz.

    Good afternoon. As a believer, I will certainly say that God created man in His own image and likeness and gave him His own Law to follow. And I can give various proofs of my point of view. A person of an atheistic worldview will tell you the opposite, namely that people created the gods in their own image, and there are no higher powers. Which position your heart leans more towards will shape the answer to your question. Faith, like unbelief, comes from the heart. For example, if a person does not want to believe, all possible proofs of the existence of God will not convince him that there is a God. But if a person wants to believe, he will find the necessary evidence for the existence of God. The choice of religion is also influenced by a person's heartbeat, but there are other factors that influence such a choice. Everything is very difficult in our life. If you are still interested in knowing specific proofs of the existence of God, or if you have any other questions about the answer, please write to us..

    Peace and tranquility to your soul.

    God is what man is trying to make the universe warmer, and therefore (and also as the fruit of man himself) inevitably has human properties. Unlike the universe, where there is no human being.

    People are mirrors of their gods, gods are mirrors of their people.

    If it is even , then it seems to me that the people of God.They believe in it no matter how. For me, the world was not created by God , because I am an atheist (non-believer).

    But remember, God exists and lives in each of us!

    The question is presented in the mutually exclusive context of statements. Either one or the other. If you do not produce unnecessary entities and do not practice academic philosophy, then the stumbling block is the formulation of the question itself. The simple answer is that God's creation of people does not contradict the further possibility of human creation of gods. The difference will consist only in the conditional degrees of manifestation of the result and no more. In principle, it is not necessary to bother reading my answer further, but if you want, I will try to justify my opinion in a clear way. Everything is energy and information in various forms of expression or manifestation. Information can change media, and with them transform the degree of its expression (manifestation). One of the forms (degrees) of consciousness manifestation is individual consciousness, and the other is collective (social) consciousness. The consciousness of individuals is integrated into a decentralized self-organizing system and obeys a set of specific rules governing interaction with each other and with the environment. These rules are formed on the basis of evolutionary changes in the mental qualities and processes of information carriers under the influence of their adaptation to new conditions, including social ones. Thus, there is no centralized imperative system for controlling the behavior of individuals, but their interactions, the nature of which can be called random, lead to the emergence of intellectual group self-consciousness (collective or public mind, group egregors, etc.). We can observe this phenomenon in the principles of the existence of certain biological systems, which will also be true in relation to the community of individual human consciousnesses. The difference, again, is only in the degree of manifestation and nothing more. Collective (public) reason, or a slightly different form of its expression-the biopolar group aura (egregor), which has gained a moment of self-consciousness due to a certain quorum (unity) of individual consciousnesses, also has an indirect influence on the behavior of units, bypassing the rules that have become fixed in their individual consciousness. Thus, the mutual influence between the consciousness of individual units and their collective consciousness is built. Consciousness of units explains the occurrence of atypical reactions for itself (unconditional execution of a decision without prior logical justification and building a chain of causal relationships) It can be applied to situations that are considered typical (one of them is a sense of deja vu, which affects the subsequent decision), such as intuition or the influence of instincts. In fact, the influence is exerted on the subconscious level of the individual unit by the collective social mind, whose self-consciousness is manifested on another level of being (conditional spatial density along the vector of time flow). Such a form of expression of intelligence (higher intelligence) cannot be considered objectively existing in the plane of conscious perception of individual units, since it goes beyond their limits by its conditional speed (the amount of information processed in a conditional unit of time or the operation of an information unit at a conditional moment of time). The public mind has the ability to perceive a wider range of probabilistic forecasting and is able to provide the individual consciousness with the best solution, taking into account its spatial and temporal position, immediately in a ready-made form. However, for the superficial consciousness of the individual, this decision will have an instantaneous manifestation and appear groundless (without a logical explanation), due to which in most cases it will be ignored. The system of mutual checks and balances regulates the interaction between individual consciousness and the forms of manifestation of group consciousness. One cannot exist without the other, just as electricity has no manifestation without its intended work. All other exercises with descriptions of many personalized gods are just an attempt to describe individual qualities (aspects) of the higher collective mind from the point of view of the perception of the lower surface consciousness of individuals. That is, a simple game of consciousness and nothing more.

    The question is certainly not correct to put it mildly? Only the Creator can create it, but people can already come up with it and believe in their imagination. And since our fantasies are devoid of titanic elements, there are many Gods, as well as worlds in the universe. What God did the author of the question have in mind? Or does his fiction imply all the Gods, but people respond with their own God in mind? One has in mind a moral God, and the other a Just One, who punishes not good people? At the same time, isn't this the subject's own opinion? Therefore, if there are no boundaries to define, it is not possible to offer anything rational, that is, reasonable. So all this is from the evil one? Then who created the Evil One?

    If you turn to the Bible, it will give a clear answer that God is the Creator.

    “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

    And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that creeps on the earth.

    And God said, ” Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed that is on all the earth, and every tree with the fruit of a tree yielding seed; and to you it will be for food; and to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to every creeping thing on the earth that has a living soul, I have given all the green And so it was.

    And God saw all that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day” (Gen 1: 26-31).

    God says through the Holy Scriptures that He is the only one, there are no other gods besides Him, only He is the Triune Person of the Deity-the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    “Remember what was before, from the beginning of the world, for I am God, and there is no other God, and there is none like Me” (Isaiah 46:9).

    “You see now that it is I, I – and there is no God but Me: I kill and I give life, I smite and I heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand” (Deut 32:39).

    “I am the Lord, and there is none else; there is no God but Me; I have girded you, though you did not know Me…”(Isaiah 45: 5).

    “Announce and tell, after consulting with each other: who announced this from ancient times, said it in advance? Isn't it Me, Lord? And there is no other God besides Me; there is no just and saving God besides Me “(Isaiah 45: 21).

    The pagans have many gods, but all this is the product of human hands. We find confirmation of this again in the Bible:

    “Why should the Gentiles say,' Where is their God?' Our God is in heaven; He does whatever He wants. And their idols are silver and gold, the work of human hands. They have mouths, but they do not speak; they have eyes, but they do not see; they have ears, but they do not hear; they have nostrils, but they do not smell; they have hands, but they do not touch; they have feet, but they do not walk; and they do not utter a voice with their larynx. Let those who make them be like them, and all who put their trust in them” (Psalm 113:10-16).

    “And there ye shall serve gods made by the hands of men of wood and stone, which neither see nor hear, nor eat nor smell” (Deut 4:28).

    “And they cast their gods into the fire; but they were not gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone; therefore they destroyed them” (Isaiah 37:19).

    “For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord created the heavens” (Psalm 95:5).

    “But then, not knowing God, you served gods who are not really gods” (Galatians 4: 8).

    “The Lord will be terrible to them, for he will destroy all the gods of the earth, and all the islands of the nations will worship Him, every man from his place” (Soph. 2:11).

    God's blessings to you!

    Hello. Such questions can be asked endlessly. Who created whom: the child of the parents or the parents of the child? Builders 'House or Builders' House? There is a causal connection in everything, and the Word of God in the Bible repeatedly draws attention to this connection:

    “for every house is built by someone; but he who built all things is God” (Hebrews 3: 4).

    How would you respond? Who created whom: the people of God or the God of men ?

    This is a VERY strange question. God is the Creator, the Creator . And yet, you have not yet answered What a person should do when he understands all the questions concerning God……. Goal

    People were created by God and settled on their planets. There, people live on different levels. Each level of God's planet corresponds to the development of a given person. This means that if a person gets into certain conditions, then these conditions contribute to his further development, and each person can contain as much energy of the Spirit of God as he is able to contain. Each person's soul has individual abilities. That is, a person has his own individual qualities, but at the same time he is a part of God. That is why it is said that God is One and we are one in Him. The unity of God is an idea-concept on Earth, because there is one Supreme God on Earth. In fact, our God has a family, just like humans. Everything is fractal-like at every level of our universe's existence.

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