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  1. In principle, everything is described in the fragment of the Gospel of Luke quoted earlier, but if you are interested in the mechanism, then it depends on the imagination and education of a particular believer. For example, a geneticist who is familiar with genetics will almost certainly hang on to the question of the Y chromosome of Jesus Christ. I once tried to ask this question in an online discussion – the answers were varied. There was an opinion that both chromosomes of Christ are from the Virgin Mary and Her ancestors. Someone suggested that the Holy Spirit created some special chromosome. The idea that Christ didn't have a Y chromosome was quite exotic. Outwardly, it was invisible, but in general-it simply wasn't.

    Personally, I think that His Y-chromosome coincided with Joseph the Betrothed. This was specially arranged by God at the time of the Immaculate Conception, so that the genealogy of Christ could be traced.

    (I may be wrong, but in principle this question is not so important. The fact of the Immaculate Conception is important.)

  2. You won't believe it, but by divine intervention. By the way, everything in the Gospel is described in sufficient detail, so we(Christians) do not need to invent anything. Jews, by the way, do not recognize Christ, from the word at all, and Muslims reject his divine nature, honoring him as a great prophet.

  3. The question is not correctly posed.The immaculate conception was not of Jesus Christ,but of the Virgin Mary. It's so simple ,now, in the 21st century to explain, Maria was just a surrogate mother.God artificially inseminated Mary. This process is easier for us to understand than it was for Christians in the 1st century

  4. Believers explain the immaculate conception of Jesus Christ solely by His Divine will. In other words, the Lord Almighty has revealed His will and done it, and we perceive it as a miracle revealed to us by the Lord. Because it is His Divine will even to change the usual course of things: He is Omnipotent.

  5. I read a lot of interesting answers…
    The gist of the question is simple: how can Christians believe in such an incredible supernatural event as the immaculate conception of the Son of God? They say, yes, everything is written in the Bible, but it can't be the same!?
    And some of the answers show that some believers today find it difficult to believe in a Supernatural God. But the whole Bible, the whole life and ministry of Jesus Christ, His death and resurrection, the ministry of the Apostles, all this is supernatural.
    The real God is supernatural. And it's easy for me to believe it, because I've seen His miracles more than once. So I don't need to explain anything from a “scientific” or rather materialistic point of view. Not because “I believe because it is absurd”, but because God's supernatural manifestations (in other words, miracles) they are real to me.

  6. In order for the Messiah to be born, there was a special providence of God. Jesus was conceived like all men by a man and a woman, only this was not sin and was permitted by God. Some events in the Bible that could be considered sinful are not (as they reverse the mistakes of the Garden of Eden-the archangel serpent stole Eve from Adam). For example, David married Bathsheba, killing her husband, and from this marriage Solomon was born (this act was not initially correct, and after David's repentance, God used it to restore the fallen nature of people). If it had been against God's Will, the great king(Solomon) would not have been born. God used the situation of the Garden of Eden in reverse: David (Adam) takes Eve( Bathsheba) from the Archangel (Uriah). Further, Tamar pretends to be a harlot and enters into a relationship with her father-in-law in order to continue his family, from which Jesus will come. Mary lives for a certain time in the house of her sister Elizabeth and comes out pregnant with the “Holy Spirit”. The only person in the house was the high priest Zechariah , who is the physical father of Jesus. Zechariah (Adam), Mary (Eve), and Joseph (archangel). This does not mean that Joseph was a bad person, but it was a situation of restoring the error of the fall of people according to a certain formula. The first Christians, Jews, and Muslims had evidence of these events, which caused people to become confused about the nature of Christ. And because the mission of Jesus was not fully completed, instead of one religion, three different religions appeared. For the Orthodox, Christ is God in the flesh, but Jesus prays repeatedly in the Bible, so he couldn't have prayed to himself… Similarly, John the Baptist, who is his brother, first recognized Jesus as the Messiah, but then turned away from him and was beheaded. John was a very influential figure for Israel, and for this reason the Jews did not accept Jesus as the Messiah and instead became the King of Kings, and he died on the cross. Jesus (the Bible refers to him as “The Second Adam”) did not have time to restore the fallen Eve and create the first family without original sin. This is the greatest tragedy!) In the Arab world, there is no evidence of the father of Jesus and this was one of the reasons for the wars between Christians and Muslims, the latter still classify him at best as a prophet, without understanding his Messianic purpose and divine nature. In reality, Jesus was the body of God, not God himself. God exists in the Spiritual world, and in order to relate to the physical world, He acts through the soul of the perfect man-Christ. The situation around the birth of Jesus Christ is connected with the events of God's restoration of this world, with the birth of the perfect man Christ. From an ordinary human point of view, this may not be easy to understand, but from the point of view of God's providence, it was the immaculate conception that led to the birth of the Messiah – Savior.

  7. When the angel Gabriel came to Mary, she was not yet pregnant with Jesus.But then Gabriel said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon You,and the power of the Most High will overshadow You;therefore the Holy Thing that is born will also be called the Son of God”(Luke 1:35).
    It can be concluded that the egg in Mary's womb was fertilized by God's Holy Spirit, who transferred the life of God's firstborn Son from the spiritual realm to earth(John 17:5).
    The Holy Spirit of God,his active power, protected the developing fetus, so that the child was born perfect.
    Why is there no doubt about this when the Bible says that the life of Jesus was transferred to the womb of Mary?
    What do doctors do when they perform in vitro fertilization?
    Life that begins in a test tube is transferred to a woman's uterus and then a baby is born.
    And the same thing happened in the case of Jesus.His life was transferred”by the power of the Most High”to the womb of the Virgin Mary.

  8. In my opinion, the immaculate conception of Christ was parthenogenesis, which was triggered by the appearance of the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary with a message from God. The same message explains the fatherhood of God in relation to Christ: “The Word was made flesh.”

  9. The majority of believers will not be able to explain anything on this issue, since all service and prayer texts are simply listened to or learned by heart without any insight into the meaning of what is written.

    Those few believers who are more intellectually developed and can think independently will mostly resort to the texts of the New Testament – quoting. That is, they will resort to a kind of textbook and reference book.

    “Otsebyatiny” from this community, most likely, you will not get.

    In addition, if Catholics built the dogma of the immaculate conception after 19 centuries! from this conception, the Orthodox prove that they had this faith almost from the very day of conception. Despite the fact that until the 11th century it was a single Christianity.

    How can believers explain anything to themselves if their Church has taken care of everything before and for them? It is the unbelievers, but those who are well versed in theology, who open up here.

    What interests me in this topic is the question: Intellectually developed, spiritually self-contained, self-thinking people – how can they accept the explicit allegory of the “immaculate conception” that is repeated many times in many religions throughout the history of mankind, which has nothing to do with the phenomenal world ( physical conception, chromosomes, etc.), how can they take it literally?

    And they are not ignoramuses. I'm surprised.

    P.S. I don't read comments on my answers. But I would like to communicate in the “Seekers of Truth”community.

  10. The immaculate conception implied the absence of original sin in the fetus. Like every man's inheritance from Adam.

    What is a signal to us is that salvation from the bondage of sin is possible only by freeing ourselves from this vice.

    And Christ has shown the Way of this liberation – REPENT!

    … IN your SELF!

  11. Yes, very simple.

    It is written: “Mary said to the Angel: How will it be when I don't know my husband?

    The angel answered and said to Her, ” The Holy Spirit will come upon You, and the power of the Most High will overshadow You.

    for with God no word will be powerless.

    Then Mary said, ” Behold the handmaid of the Lord; let it be done to me according to your word.”

    It speaks of the word of God, which is never powerless.

    Our DNA is the center of a huge amount of information.

    And God is information, like the Word.

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

    This is how Mary was given enough information to conceive and give God a body for incarnation.

    And she accepted this information by faith.

  12. I wonder if you read the Bible piecemeal or whole.

    Here's the answer:

    Matthew 1: 18 [Zach. 2.] The nativity of Jesus Christ was like this: when his Mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they were married, she was found to be with child of the Holy Spirit.

    John 3: 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    Jesus was a spirit, that is, an idea. What other types of DNA?

    The Bible is a book about ancient knowledge, written in the language of metaphors and symbolic images, and you read it verbatim.

    It's all chewed up here

  13. The immaculate conception is not a miracle in nature. There are at least a dozen organisms that reproduce without males. This phenomenon is called parthenogenesis.
    But man is not one of these organisms. Therefore, it can be considered a miracle that Maria suddenly received such an ability. Without Joseph's involvement, by the way.
    Exactly what mechanism of conception worked in Mary, of those that exist in the created world, is not known for certain. This is out of the realm of speculation. But it worked. The result is known to this day.
    You just need to understand the fact that the Bible tells about miracles, puts not the same meaning that is shown in the movies. Miracles in Scripture are a person's use of a force or complex of forces that are not peculiar to them. But at the same time, these forces exist and act on their own. Very often, creatures near us are an example of such extraordinary abilities. But more often they are ignored. Many of you have seen a lizard that is capable of regenerating its limbs (not just its tail) and even its internal organs? I saw. Nothing special. Small, nondescript. And you wouldn't think that she has such abilities. And from the point of view of a person who does not possess such a thing, this is undoubtedly a miracle. We also have the ability to regenerate, but very limited. Healing of wounds. No more than that.

  14. Any question about religion is explained by faith in God and his omnipotence, so here it is more appropriate to ask why believers call the conception of Jesus immaculate. The answer to this question is quite obvious – in this way the church reflects the purity and sanctity of the Mother of God, the earthly mother of Christ – the Virgin Mary – the most revered person in Christianity and the greatest of saints.

  15. If we recall one of the main propositions of Christianity, that God is Love, then there is nothing unnatural in the statement “immaculate conception”. Mom and Dad — Mary and Joseph, and was born from true and pure Love. The concept of “immaculate conception” can be put a lot of meanings, but I think you should not cling to the literal reading of this phrase. The correct perception of the biblical dogma of the Virgin Mary's immaculateness is too much interfered with by the persistent postulate of filth and “depravity” of sexual contacts, regardless of whether they are performed in or out of marriage. If I'm not mistaken, then this perception of sex as such originated somewhere in the Middle Ages. Well, yes, the Bible is a story that has been retold many times and translated many times from one language to another. No one canceled translation difficulties .)

  16. The Bible is a very ambiguous book, which was written, most likely, by several people and has undergone many translations, so there may not have been any immaculate conception at all, and this story was spread as a result of an incorrect translation of the Bible. Although against the background of burning bushes and everything else, this does not particularly surprise anyone. Believers want to see a miracle everywhere, which is why this story from the Bible is so popular. The same goes for the number of the beast, which is either 666 or 616. But now all this has turned into symbols, and the history of their origin is of little interest to anyone.

    Proofs:

    https://levhudoi.blogspot.com/2012/01/714.html?m=1

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE_%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%8F

  17. The miracle needs no explanation. And Mariam was conceived immaculately according to many Catholic Christians. You need to believe and not ask tricky questions.

  18. The risk of unwanted pregnancy exists for any girl of puberty with a regular menstrual cycle, even if penile penetration into the vagina has not occurred. Sometimes, petting is enough to get a small amount of a man's sperm into the vagina. Further, it all depends on the activity and survivability of spermatozoa. The simple act of ejaculating on the labia can already lead to pregnancy.

    That is, we can assume that the Virgin Mary had a lover.

  19. A believer (or still an unbeliever?) Pushkin, who” our everything “imagined it as it is described in his “Gavriliad”:

    He flew away. Tired Maria

    I thought about it: “What pranks!

    One, two, three! – how is it that they are not too lazy?

    I can say that I suffered an alarm:

    I got it on the same day

    To the evil one, to the archangel, and to God.”

    The Most High God, as usual, then

    Recognized his Jewish virgin son,

    But Gabriel (an enviable fate!)

    He never stopped appearing to her secretly;

    Like many, Joseph was comforted,

    He is still sinless before his wife,

    I loved Christ as my own son,

    That's why the Lord rewarded him!

  20. To understand this, we must remember that religion is a symbolic representation of philosophy. And from a philosophical point of view, the union of principles is neither vicious nor immaculate.

    Well, if you approach it from the point of view of sex or even genetics, then of course, the question is very important.

  21. It is incredible that religious people continue to be so at all. Because if you study the topic a little and include logic, there will be no doubt that the entire Bible is a collection of myths and legends of the ancient world. After all, it was from there that the story of the “immaculate conception”was taken. And it was added to the canon much later, by the way, during the Middle Ages – to attract more women to the church. But in the gospel of Paul, the very first (even if written two centuries after Paul's own death), not a word is said about any “immaculate conception”. Although it would seem that it was possible to miss such an unusual fact of biography. This and other miracles appear in the later gospels. In short, the principle of a damaged phone in its purest form. The further you go, the more myths there are and the less truth there is.

  22. Faith, in principle, requires no explanation. The desire to get to the bottom of the essence and mechanism of some phenomenon and event, and an explanation that is comfortable from the point of view of human logic, contradicts the very essence of faith.

    “Credo quia absurdum est” – I believe it because it is absurd, wrote one of the most prominent early Christian writers, theologians and apologists Tertullian.

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