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  1. Nietzsche meant that the weak have no place in a world where the goal is to create a superman.

    O my brothers, am I cruel? But I say: what falls, you still need to push! All that is of today is falling and falling apart; who would want to keep it? But I-I want to push him again! Are you familiar with the pleasure of rolling rocks into sheer depths? These people of today: look at them ,how they are sinking into my depths! … And if you can't teach anyone to fly, you can't teach them to fall faster!

    So if this falling comrade is weak, then you will push him to fall for sure – and history will thank you. Let it fly quickly to the bottom, and we will see how it flies merrily – this is our current imperfection, opening the way for further progress.

    On the other hand, if this falling comrade is strong, then he will pull through even if you push him. And it will only make you stronger – remember another quote from Nietzsche, “what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.”

    So, whatever one may say, a falling person does not need to lend a helping hand. He must be pushed into the abyss. And there, as it turns out, any option is for the best.

  2. In this context, Nietzsche's “fall” meant getting rid of inadequate life attitudes, mental and behavioral stereotypes that limit personal freedom and self-realization.

    Since this process is always accompanied by increased anxiety, even fear of the unknown, the temporary absence of a “fulcrum” – therefore, the “fall”. Nietzsche, after all, was a poet no less than a philosopher… )

    Accordingly, a person who has embarked on this path should be “pushed”, that is, helped, and not “held” captive by previous stereotypes and cognitive errors.

  3. This is actually a translation error. In the original, not masculine, but neuter, falling push (was fällt, das soll man auch noch stossen!) Don't hold on to the past, which is unreliable, don't lean on the shaky. Probably, this is a play on safety posters that demand that rotten supports be knocked out in the mine and new ones installed. Nietzsche's dictum is similar to the biblical one: “Behold, you are thinking of leaning on Egypt, on this broken cane, which, if anyone leans on it, will go into his hand and pierce it. Such is Pharaoh king of Egypt to all who put their trust in him” (Isaiah 36: 6; 2 Kings 18: 21).

  4. Any person has moments in his life when he supposedly looks like a falling man. This means that everyone should start pushing each other – according to Nietzsche.

    Where is Nietzsche's instruction – how to distinguish falling from non-falling ???

    Nietzsche himself clearly began to fall after this criminal phrase of his – “push the falling one”.

  5. In fact, you should not think that this phrase is very easy to understand, because any philosophy is protected by the illusion of easy understanding.

    Nietzsche does not call for the streets of European cities to be flooded with the blood of people who are not strong enough to defend themselves – believe me, the idea of the German moustache is much more interesting than violence against the weak. It's about something else, and to get the meaning right, you need to add context.

    In this passage, Nietzsche criticizes the mores of his contemporaries, pointing out that their excessive desire for compassion and pity does something to people that makes them lose all respect. The point is not that a person in a difficult moment needs help and Nietzsche calls for abandoning him to his own devices.

    It's about people who are used to getting everything they need for themselves through self-pity, so that they become like slugs and sycophants who try to twist around so that in any situation they look like a victim who needs help. Such a person will pretend to suffer in order to attract attention and take a little ride on someone else's back.

    This is the way of existence that Nietzsche calls for pushing, because such “falling” people are clowns who depict difficult times in order to drag into their pit everyone who, out of the kindness of their hearts, decides to help. It is like a subtle form of evil that needs to be properly recognized and not fall for the trick of compassion for the weak, because they only pretend to be weak.

  6. Thus spake Zarathustra (the one who walks or the Spirit that knows itself). Man is the “bridge” between the animal (delusion) and the superman “or Self-aware Spirit” and on this bridge (on the way) I will give my hand to the tired traveler (man) going to himself, but I will not become a crutch for him. In this way, every man for himself. Everything has a measure and its price, and each person sets for himself, measures and pays for himself (by his own measure). Everyone has their own bottom and everyone will drink their own cup and cooked “brew” to the bottom along the way. After drinking to the bottom you will see (realize) yourself, not as in the mirror that is installed (there is a reflection in it), but you will see Who-You will meet with yourself.. “Falling-push” – means prompt, motivate. You can't help but know that you're not alone even the stars in the sky are like grains of sand in your hands – So how many people are walking on the bridge? Isn't that all? Some of them are for-Him. For each of those who go, there is always something in everythingSomebody. The human concept in this matter is replaced by a perverted consciousness-the fruit of an imaginary bargain. If I eat, you won't be full. Thus spake Zarathustra.

  7. If a person does not want to wear a mask during an epidemic, then instead of educating him, it is better to give him the opportunity to get infected and start developing herd immunity on himself. It is not necessary to fight for the salvation of every fool, there are situations when it is more useful to let a person do something stupid.

  8. Imagine an organization where everything is rotten through and through, full of hypocrites and corruption, completely unable to perform its functions (for example, a fair trial), it is increasingly decaying and causing more and more harm to society. Now imagine a young man who came there full of pathos and is sincerely trying to save this organization, to transform it into what it should be. Most likely, his efforts are doomed, he will not change the organization, he will only prolong its agony. This is what Nietzsche says: it is useless to save something unnecessary, obsolete, which itself flies into the abyss, where it would be wiser to destroy it.

    Or you can cite the example of the same science, where it is better to discard the old theory that is bursting at the seams than to try to attach GR to Newtonian physics

    Only now, under the influence of Nietzsche, too, they began to push even what was perfectly standing, and when it did not give in, they began to push even harder with shouts of “obsolete”. So before you “push”, make sure that it really “falls”

  9. The weak must die. That's what Nietzsche meant. And this is consistent with natural selection, and also strongly opposed to all the religious foundations of Christianity, of which the author was an ardent opponent. Thus, first, he kills two birds with one stone by criticizing the religion of suffering, which cares for the weak, and second, he encourages the natural mechanism of selection, according to which, according to his reasoning, only in this way can there be a need for the birth of a superman.�

    Otherwise, everything that is weak in yourself must be killed and only the strong must be brought up. Isn't that fair?

  10. If there is no God, then evolution rules and then you will eat the weak…, the death of the gods forced you to look for something else as a life goal, for example, a superman, and the path that was proposed by the evolutionary theory at that time. Today, he would not say so because even in the monkey herd there is help for the weak, according to the principle, tomorrow he can become strong and useful to the herd….. Nietzsche simply made a mistake relying on modern science, and science develops and constantly refutes itself…..

  11. Nietzsche – the very evidence)) Isn't nature itself doing to us what he says it has been doing for millions of years?) So what he wrote, or was written for him, has long been “written” by nature itself.

    The person falling doesn't need to be pushed, he will fall by himself, in due time

  12. As far as I know, this is a quote from Nietzsche's text, which is more artistic than scientific. Like any literary text, this text can have countless interpretations that will never be complete. Artistic texts exist not to encode clear thoughts, but to express vague thoughts that the author perceives not as a thought, but as an image. Using computer language, the image of a literary text is a kind of dense semantic core, in which countless thoughts and interpretations are archived. The interpretations in the previous answers are good, each in its own way, but you need to understand that the question is what the writer wanted to say with such and such a work (if we are talking about a work of fiction) this is such a simplified school approach, not quite correct. I recall Leo Tolstoy, who, when asked what he wanted to say with the novel “Anna Karenina”, replied that in order to answer, he would have to repeat the whole novel word for word.

  13. The concepts of “weakling” and “strong” are too blurry to focus on. I think it's a matter of psychology. There are habits, patterns of behavior, mistakes that people constantly make, and until they survive the collapse, they will not be able to understand that they are lost. A person is something that must be surpassed. First of all, myself. Evolution within a single personality.

    If you put this on a practical track, you can take this example. A gambler who comes to his ex-wife in tears and begs her to come back, promises that he will no longer behave like this, that he will take care of his family – she tells him no and “pushes” him into loneliness and gambling binge. At the same time, she does not support him and does not want to have more business with him at all, because he lost the money that was set aside for the child. Despite the love, she steps on her own throat and leaves her ex-husband alone with his illness, realizing that nothing will work out, and she will not be able to fix it. He blames her for all his problems, that “threw”, loses everything that he had, loses the apartment of an old father, begins to drink and occupy, he is fired from work.. in desperation, he tries again to meet with his ex-wife, explain everything, hopes that she will understand, but she calmly says “no”. By doing this, she pushes the “falling” person to the abyss. Having made sure that she really doesn't care about him anymore, at some point he stops blaming her, gambling addiction gradually comes to naught, loses its sacred meaning, and there is no one to fight for his destructive addiction. Codependent relationships have fallen apart in the bud. He is alone and bankrupt, all the property is mortgaged, just out of desperation begins to work, slowly pay off loans. Attachment to his ex-wife evaporates completely, and in this emptiness his renewed personality is born.

    “Falling push” is when you resolutely refuse to help a person in great trouble, perhaps a friend, subconsciously feeling that your help will serve him an evil service and only temporarily postpone his bitter ending.

    It's a rather difficult choice, and you can't rely on logic here. Only a deep empath can sense such situations and know that they did the right thing.

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