If there was nothing before birth and there won't be anything after death, then why were we born?

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Is it possible that there will be a rebirth after death?

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    If we were born alive, then we must live !!! And for what purpose ??? No one asked us if we wanted to be born….so no one will ask ,take a life in his time …Live and enjoy your life !!! Every moment ,every breath…Everything is created on earth for pleasure, trees, breeze, sunlight, flowers .no, it's just that the spiritually blind can't see it …You can live without faith !!! Well.if you can't live without faith, then you need a shepherd, pastor, priest, imam, etc. who will take you through life if you can't move your brain….go there!!! Better yet, live in freedom, live according to your conscience ,and develop !!! The only living thing that knows when it's alive that it's going to die is a human being !!! Just live !!!

    This is the form of life on this planet. Each previous life creates conditions and frees up space for the next one. If it does not create conditions, then this form of life ceases as not viable. Eternal life is not perfect, it has no new beginnings for development, so it does not exist.

    There was nothing before birth? Isn't that right? For example: there was a world that could give birth to me; there were people before I was born, and much more. If I'm there, ” before…” If I did not exist, then nothing can be determined in relation to my non-existence. Why does everything start to revolve around my “I”, in relation to me? I am a point of reference or observer who sees what was before, what is and will be. It is strange that this temporary self finds itself in the center and gives being to everything else that relates to me. And if I didn't exist, then in relation to my non-existence, would it be possible to determine at least something?
    If I am only now, in the present, then how do I know that I was not once, and that I will not be in the future?

    Strange question… From the moment of birth, we receive a soul, and after baptism-a Guardian Angel, and the patronage of the saint (s) whose name we bear. There is no death, but a transition from one state of life to another. From the state of the body to the etheric. Therefore, it is said that while in a physical state, you need to take care of the state of the soul, pray for yourself and for others, because then it is impossible to change anything.

    Because you (the sperm ) got into the egg, and cell division began. That's how you came into this world !

    It's all about nature ) And your parents who at the right time in the right condition engaged in reproduction )

    What happened before birth and what will happen after death is a matter of search. There is no proof that nothing happened. Answers can be found by turning inward or taking religious and philosophical teachings at their word. There are techniques like regressive hypnosis that take you back in time and help you see things you didn't know about before.

    The main thing is to deduce YOUR OWN FORMULA for existence on earth and believe in it with all your heart, then the questions will also end-why do we live, what is the point of it, etc…. My formula is To glorify the higher power that gave you the opportunity to be born, live and do not interfere with the life of others, do useful things and help others. It's incredibly simple. When you realize that the source of all problems is YOU and the source of all joys is also YOU, then there will be no complaints about other people. All the best and joy.

    The most important thing in this matter, in my opinion, is the last thought. What was a person born for? If you find the answer to this question, then many things will fall into place and put in order what people today see as chaos. And there is an answer to this question!

    Interestingly, if we take into account the opinions about reincarnation and other processes, the question arises what will happen to the human soul after humanity has exhausted all its resources or destroyed itself in war.The life of the planet is not eternal,then what?

    In order to find the answer to this question, we need to read the Gospel, which is the living Word of God the Father, transmitted to us by His Son Jesus Christ. It is necessary to read slowly, thinking about what you have read.

    The answer is simple. It's God's will! Still, I'll try to answer. A person who doubts his belonging in this world, or is mentally ill or a slacker on which there is no place to put samples.

    It's not hard to understand.The universe is energy.Matter is energy.Who *turned it on* ? We can only guess and believe it or not. We know, energy, forms, units of measurement, etc. A person is also energy. Soul-energy.It is she who flashes, like a light bulb turned on, at the moment of conception.This soul (energy) will live in the body, develop, bringing something to the universe, remaining in it after the body leaves.Each soul (energy object) is a speck of some special energy inhabits the universe,but until when? When will the universe be sufficiently compacted by this unknown bundle of energy? For what? Someday in infinity, there will be a time…in general, it is useless to fantasize further.

    In my UNSOPHISTICATED opinion, the meaning of the existence of life(birth, life, death) as such, it is COGNITION. While living, we constantly learn: taste, smell, pain, pleasure, joy of creativity. We also learn not only” positive ” things, but also negative ones. And this idea fits into the theory of the immortality of the soul, which must go through thousands of rebirths in order to stop being reborn and pass into immaterial existence. What drives us? Desire and its fulfillment are the knowledge of the hitherto unknown, starting with the insignificant and ending with the knowledge of the secrets of the universe. In my opinion, this is the answer to the question – “why”.And life on our planet, being a part of the life of the universe (again in my opinion), is created by the universal mind for this.

    As much love as you have, you are the meaning of life: “who am I?” If emptiness is the cause of everything, if the whole world is provoked by it, then what can a person, the peak of this world, do? Relatively recently, by the standards of everything, consciousness has appeared and what it is capable of is not known. I want to believe that it refers to something ideal, eternal-because in its hierarchy it is much higher than the unreasonable emptiness.

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    All those who were born and now live are sinners who must correct the shoals of the past life. When a person has fully worked out his karma, he will move to another plane and stop reincarnating. In short, this is your personal hell)) and the living conditions in it depend on how much you screwed up. I will immediately answer a possible question about the number of souls on earth. The religious scriptures say that there are a huge number of them, even much more than they currently live on the planet. They are reborn at different times, some at once, some after 100 years, etc. I recommend viewing Julie Poe's YouTube. Everyone has their own purpose in life and before they are born, a person knows exactly what they should do) only at birth we forget everything, and this is done on purpose. Basically, the meaning of life comes down to self-development, spiritual growth, contemplation, sensuality, and so on. Everything you learn in life is stored in the ancestral memory.

    The first sip from the cup of natural science generates atheism, but at the bottom of the “vessel” we are waiting for�God” (Werner Heisenber, winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics). When analyzing the structure of the universe, serious scientists “tend to think that there is some supernatural element of existence that cannot be rationalized.

    We were born because we were born. We are what life around us is. We will become what we are made of. Nothing gives birth only to nothing!

    We were born to live, and what fate gave us from birth, that's the question, someone a happy life, and someone the struggle for survival, it is necessary to ask the Almighty, we will never know about it, and after death will live on your children, grandchildren

    There were previous lives before birth. Almost everyone living can see this for themselves.
    After the death of the physical body, there will be a new life, in another body.
    No need to worry! There is an Eternity ahead!
    And we were all born for self-knowledge, for the knowledge of the world, for the knowledge of God.

    In general, I wonder how people,animals, etc. appeared?I don't think it's from a monkey.It would be nice if the parents were resurrected.Or at least they were born into other people!

    Before birth, there was nothing, because there were no us. Consciousness is formed on the basis of those brain settings that we were given at birth. As a person grows up, he or she gains a memory of past events that he or she saw or directly participated in. This is how consciousness develops. From memory. In general, all we are is our memory. If you somehow erase it from a person, it will be akin to death. Biologically, a person may be alive, but that person will never be there again, even if you try to impose all your memories through stories, photos, and so on. When we die… Well, no one knows the answer to this question. I once had an idea slip through my mind, although I partially forgot it, but I'll try to remember it. Example. Anesthesia. During it, a person can wake up, talk about something, but his consciousness is actually turned off at this moment. In fact, a small death. When he wakes up, he remembers nothing of what happened during this time. When a person dies, it is also death. But if no memories are preserved at death, then how can we be aware of ourselves in the here and now?

    Well, when I was just thinking about it, it seemed somehow more logical to me. I may have forgotten some of my thoughts, or it may be something important. In any case, I can offer something like this as an answer 🙂 Perhaps these are just delusional thoughts induced by thanatophobia, perhaps after death we are waiting for a certain “cosmic cloud”, where there is a remote gesture with our consciousness, the information from which was broadcast to these useless bags of meat 🙂

    We don't know the truth, not because we don't want to know it, but because it's more convenient for us to lie (to ourselves and others). But where there is a lie, there is no place for truth. Nothing comes from nowhere and goes nowhere. If there is no rebirth, then there will be no people (and all living things, too).

    Why guess then, everything was described long ago, Adam and Eve were banished to hell for re-education, here we are in this hell and live, someone one life, someone several until the brains do not fall into place, then returns to paradise for eternal life, and someone manages to destroy their soul here in hell with unbelief, bad habits and bad behavior, and after passing several lifetimes simply disappears into oblivion.

    There can be no correct answer to a wrong question, so I will allow myself to correct it.: What happened before someone was born and what will happen after death? How does the birth process take place from the point of view of life on earth, and not childbirth?

    The answer is quite straightforward in its simplicity of explanation and difficult to understand. After all, you need to answer it not from the religious point of view of reflection, but from the point of view of cold logic, without mysticism and energy “out of nowhere” and even more so not just assumptions.

    Answer from the point of view of physics:

    From the point of view of science, any person is a clot of ordered matter with energy circulation within himself and exchange with the environment through passing through physical processes and mechanics/physics of interaction with the environment.

    That is, we get that we constantly receive matter and energy(food, sunlight, banal warming us, etc.), with the constant release of these into the environment-I think everyone is familiar with their physiology , but just in case I will explain for the unsure: defecation, sweating and heat release in the process of chemical reactions mainly in the liver and muscles, we will even include here a weak electromagnetic effect of the brain, which can only be detected by an electroencephalograph(we consider the brain from the point of view of an electric device, bummer, there is no mysticism)

    Thus, we are a medium of exchange of matter and energy with the surrounding world.

    All living beings have emerged from matter and energy(that is, not from nothing) – and your consciousness is not something new that appeared as a result of unknown processes, but quite a logical ordering of chemical elements in a certain order in the process of evolution (as one of the many variants on the planet) from atoms and self-replicating amino acids.

    Yes, you are all an order, which peaks at the peak of your activity(in real life, it took several billion years of evolution for you to appear) and in a fairly rapid reverse process, where all consciousness and particles of matter that make up the body disintegrate, passing(or not passing, if you are inactive) the baton of increasing self-organization to the next chemical-physical structure.

    The atoms and energy of your body will merge with the sun in a few billion years due to its expansion and cooling, and then, when it explodes, your particles will fly to the stars, planets and black holes. If the universe ever goes through a contraction process, then everything you've ever been made up of(and the rest of the cosmos) will meet again at one point, shrinking to the limit to create, perhaps, a new universe. And who knows, maybe you will be lucky enough to appear in this world again for a period equal to the duration of a human life.

    PS: that's because human life on the scale of the universe is an invisible particle in the period of its existence, transhumanists strive for scientific and technological immortality.

    Questions of death concern every person, the believer is concerned about his posthumous fate, the atheist is simply afraid to go into nothing. But truly, firm believers do not care about these issues at all. Saints Seraphim of Sorov, Father John of Kronstadt, Blessed Xenia and many many saints… according to the recollections of those present, they left joyfully and brightly, without fear and pain of body and soul. He can take a closer look at the views of these people who were NOT afraid of the inevitable death and rejoiced at its arrival.

    What makes you think there was nothing before you were born? Do you remember anything about it, or did your mother tell you? Don't talk nonsense, because memory doesn't store memories of previous lives. Unless, when you get into a situation, you suddenly realize that you have already “gone through it”. WHAT WERE YOU OR WE BORN FOR? WHAT IS NOT CLEAR HERE? We were born only to improve our ego, and all subsequent rebirths are aimed solely at this.

    After death, there will be a moment of eternity, the absence of consciousness and feelings, nirvana in its absolute understanding. Life is hell, and the return to oblivion is a natural need and a natural state of the “protein body”.
    God, the soul, is a hopeless hope of continuing to live in hell.
    Be realistic…

    Because a chain of random events generated by the laws of the universe led to this. According to the law of the universe, the lights were turned on for you, and they will turn them off for you. Without a reason.

    Read H. P. Blavatsky. Humans have existed since time immemorial, (meaning not just savages)and naturally those who were in the beginning knew all this reliably. Also on this topic V. Pelevin.

    You know, asking such a question from a philosophical point of view is probably correct, from the point of view of real perception of things (big question?)…. we don't even have a close conceptual apparatus to even talk about it in the first approximation. What we have: in the first place, of course, mathematicians, with their numerous models and algorithms, and in the second place, physicists, climb deeper and deeper into the knowledge of the world order, evidently approaching the cherished one… (take at least the Higgs boson, it is not for nothing that it is called the God particle)….well, doctors close the chain, but oddly enough, advanced official medicine, terribly conservative, but already (which is already good) do not call the biochemical processes of protein-nuclein structures life…….. we are on the right track. In the meantime, at our stage of development, even the simplest living entity will never be created….

    If we die, we'll understand, and that's not a fact. What to think about it? Live for your own pleasure, but only in such a way that it does not deprive others of pleasure. That's the whole point of life!

    Consciousness is generated by brain activity. The activity of the brain is provided by the life of the body.

    The body, brain and mind are created by an evolutionary mechanism for adapting living organisms to environmental conditions for their better survival.

    Life is a form of existence of protein bodies.

    Life created itself out of absolutely nothing.

    What is real is what we think is real in our collective consciousness: what we see directly, what we know through science, what we see for ourselves, on TV, read in books, hear from others, all this forms an individual's idea of this world.

    Hypothetically, there may be other worlds that do not affect us in any way, this cannot be excluded, but it cannot be proved. Our world is definitely real, because it is perceived collectively by our consciousness.

    From the point of view of dry science, there should be nothing before birth and after death, because consciousness is generated by the activity of the brain and exists only while the body lives. But science cannot explain everything, and the world is not self-sufficient from the point of view of science. The soul is something beyond the realm of the scientifically knowable world. Without the soul, all brain activity would be a meaningless thing within itself, and the picture of the world that the brain forms and that the soul of each of us sees would not exist, and the world would not exist.

    Since science cannot explain everything, especially the mystery of the soul, there is still room for fantasy. One can believe in one of the collective fantasies, which are historically formed religions that have emerged, evolved, and evolved in the collective mind just as life has evolved in the physical world. Religions developed together with culture, law, and a common way of life, contributing to each other and closely intertwining. But you can also listen to your inner feelings, experience and knowledge about the world to fantasize about what the soul is and what awaits us after death.

    I personally think that the human soul is a nodule of the information and semantic field that underlies our universe, thanks to it, our universe exists. This information and semantic field itself is something animate, it is also the carrier of the basic logical, physical, and mathematical properties of our world. The mind generated by the brain twists this information and semantic field into such a knot that a certain anomaly is created in it, like a singularity in a black hole, this is the soul, something impossible. But at the same time, the emergence of the soul was predetermined, the information and semantic field pushed the universe to create life in it and evolve into something that can generate consciousness. Before birth, each of us was one with this information and semantic field, in other words, before birth, there was not what we understand as consciousness capable of perceiving and remembering. You can accept that before the birth of the soul, it simply was not in the usual sense. But how to accept that after death it will not be the same as it was not before birth? This cannot be accepted. Memories, dreams, and feelings must not disappear, and it cannot all be nonsense. If it disappears later, then it doesn't exist now. But everything will be within the framework of science. I believe that the all-powerful artificial intelligence created by man, working on the basis of quantum computers, into which he transforms entire planets, will be able to find a way to look into the past and recreate the consciousness of each of the people who lived before, and therefore their soul, because consciousness is the soul. And it will put everyone's artificial intelligence in a virtual reality identical to the real one, all memories will be saved, you will be able to return to different moments of your life and live them again, you will be able to realize your best dreams. I would very much like it to be so, and I wish it to all of us!

    To make the world a better place. You can endlessly search for meaning in the individual existence of your little self, but you will never find it. Break down the barriers of prejudice, fear and dislike that separate this ” I ” from the big world, big humanity. And life will suddenly find its lost meaning. You are part of a larger thing, part of the whole. Your immortality is the immortality and prosperity of our common species. And the purpose of your existence lies far beyond your short life. Isn't that enough?

    I agree with Peter (divan theologian), without religion, in one form or another, the question of the meaning of life becomes, in my opinion, simply insoluble.
    Maybe that's why religion will continue to exist as long as humanity is alive.

    All the goals of making life more beautiful for those who are now living and for subsequent generations simply turn into a desire for greater comfort of our physical body.
    All the achievements of modern science are also aimed at achieving primitive human comfort, and, or, at the physical destruction of man ( science has always been in the service of the military)

    Therefore, a person who is confident in the finiteness of his own existence ( although he simply does not think about it) can only work ( so that his head is filled with specific everyday tasks), or fill it with alcohol so that it does not think at all.

    Well, or join some religious trend.
    As the saying goes, blessed is he who believes.

    Of all the living, no one can know what will happen after death. They'll bury it and that's the end of it. So there's nothing to talk about. Peace be with you and your home.

    Despite all the ideology, including religion in all its concessions, it is safe to say that rebirth, as well as the transmigration of souls, does not exist!

    You may ask why?

    The answer lies in the Bible itself, which speaks of the first murder, or the Death of Cain. Abel, who raised his hand against him, did not only commit murder, which was originally forbidden by God. No, he did what the Lord himself called for – ” Thou shalt not kill!”

    From this it follows that only God has the right to “Kill”, in the truest sense of the word!

    If you don't understand the essence of my Biblical thought, then imagine yourself as a passenger on an airplane who, for a number of reasons, fails.

    Imagine that you are in an airplane seat that guarantees you minimal security under the airline's flight safety protocol.

    And suddenly, the captain of the aircraft, on the speakerphone notifies you, through the flight attendants, that the plane is falling!

    Your reaction to this message will naturally be twofold. If you are not connected with the knowledge of the elementary basics of technology, then you will naturally feel the fear of death that you received at birth.

    But if you have an innate experience of dealing with similar situations, then your mental retardation will tell you how to act in this situation!

    We all came here to complete our tasks!

    How were there no past lives? I remember them perfectly – I had 5 dreams like a lucid dream. flashback. Very interesting. And then my friend spread it out on the Tarot, not knowing that I had already seen it in a dream and it all coincided.

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