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  1. Stone.


    Let's discuss with you a bit

    Philosophical question: about the stone and God…

    Can God create such a stone,

    Which he will never raise?

    Our God is all-powerful! He can handle anything!

    But the slaves can't see that stone.

    Here you can only understand with your mind,

    That the stone should occupy the universe.

    And then no one will ever understand

    Where to raise it. After all, all the stone will take!

    God could lift it up. But tell me where?

    No space available! That's the trouble!

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  2. The classic answer is: yes, of course, and that stone is you. (meaning the person asking this question).

    Despite the obvious humor, this answer is essentially correct. After all, the question is whether God can limit his own abilities. According to Christianity, this is exactly what he did, granting man free will.

  3. And what exactly is the problem? Especially for God.

    It is enough for God to gather all the matter of the universe together and turn it into a stone, which He will simply have nothing to raise above.

  4. The assumption of God's omnipotence leads to an unsolvable logical contradiction. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that there is no God. Everything else is casuistry.

  5. As for the stone-that's easy!

    Now there is a new theory that there is a Giant Attractor in the universe. And that the surrounding galaxies do not fly from the point of explosion, but just fall on this attractor. You can't see it from here yet – it's too far away. Well, its size, under such a condition, is not at all imaginable!

    If it suddenly turns out that the theory is correct, then this object is just your stone. Why shouldn't Tom be made of stone? What's stopping you? And you can't move it, that's for sure.�

    Another thing – and the meaning?

  6. I will try to explain this question from the point of view of Islam.

    Faith in God in Islam is based on such obligatory attributes as: faith in the omnipotence of God, faith in his omniscience, omniscience and other attributes.�

    The existence of such a stone would mean that it is beyond the pleasure of Allah and that this is impossible. How impossible it is for anything to be beyond the knowledge, vision, or hearing of Allah, and all this is an indication of His might and strength, not of weakness.

  7. What if God picks up this rock in space?

    Like Thor's hammer

    Tony used mjolnir in space, in a state of zero gravity, even though he wasn't worthy

    The unworthy hammer won't lift, but the unworthy one didn't have a foothold from which to lift it, so technically he lifted it without lifting it

  8. I would say this, he can make a lot of stones of different sizes, then divide himself into many parts, and some of them can lift the stone, and some can not.

  9. This question is one of the most striking examples of the imperfection of human language and evidence that there are things that words cannot express. In defense of our linguistic capabilities, it is worth noting that a worthy solution was found – the definition of “transcendent”.

    Therefore, the question is basically incorrect. It can only be answered in the world of people who believe that God is an old man in a dressing gown, dangling his legs from a cloud, and with a sly, mocking squint justifying his inability to create an unaffordable stone.

  10. In the literal sense, this question does not exist, except, as a metaphor, philosophically for a person. For only God himself can speak for himself, for there is no God but God. Man is not God! And this means that” God ” for the non-ego is/is not humanly. Such a” God”, according to Nietzsche, is long dead, since everything is only by us, people. And this is despite the fact that, in fact, either you are a blind and deaf person, and therefore lame on both legs, because the leper ego is an illusion of the believing mind, or you are God(We are Gods, it was said), the Light of the unconditioned witnessing consciousness in us.

  11. I believe that you need to answer directly and to the point. The question concerns the omnipotence of God. Well: God can do anything, absolutely anything! This means that God can create any stone, lift any stone, and immediately become limited, unable to lift any stone. For the essence of omnipotence is that it can do everything. It includes all the possibilities, both positive and negative. So the ability to not lift a stone is also included, as is the ability to lift any stone. For more information, follow the link: apologet.net

  12. The problem conditions are not correct, there is absolutely no lifting stone �by definition. In other words, in the essence of a stone, there is no property of absolute non-lifting, otherwise �is no longer a stone.

  13. If the question is about logic, and not about sophistry, then of course it can.

    God, like everything that exists, has the ability to evolve. It cannot be restricted by any framework by definition. But its “power” is not static. That is, he can measure the amount of his “strength” and create a stone that will not be able to lift. And then it will increase its strength and raise it. The only question is why does he need it?

  14. In general, the question is rather strange.

    We have a paradox.

    1) God is omnipotent. He can do anything. Including creating a rock that he won't be able to lift.

    2) God is omnipotent, he can lift the stone that he created, because he is omnipotent.

    3) If God created a stone that he is not able to lift, and raised it, then he created an ordinary stone. I.e., God, with all his desire, is not able to create a stone that he will not be able to lift. Therefore, God is not omnipotent. And God must be omnipotent, if he is not omnipotent, then he is not God. And God is one. So there is no God.

    Become atheists, be smarter, gentlemen.

  15. In your question, you collided two internally contradictory concepts: “absolute omnipotence” and “unaffordable stone”. If you try to define both, you will find that they will start to conflict. And that's just one part of the problem.

    The second is that the concept of “omnipotence” that Christian theologians attribute to God does not mean that He is capable of creating everything that we can only formulate in his extremely imperfect language. For example, we can say: “a square circle” or “a triangle with five corners”. Naming these items doesn't make them any more real. Their definitions are logically wrong and refer to objects that cannot exist in nature. And God has nothing to do with it.

  16. The question implies that God exists. I would advise the questioner to first look for evidence of the existence of God before asking questions about heavy stones. I warn you in advance: you won't find them…

  17. Our system of concepts cannot reflect the simultaneous execution of more than one action, and this is a direct consequence of our lack of self-sufficiency. For example, you can't hold two flowers at different heights in one hand. A person is unable to fully know (in this case = understand) God, being beyond omnipotence.

    If God needed to demonstrate his omnipotence with the example of stones , he would put us in the necessary system of concepts, and we would see how this is possible. The language of our system of concepts is imperfect precisely because of non-sufficiency: we can formulate a problem like “draw a red line, but in blue”, and in an ideal system of concepts “but” is impossible.

    I am more interested in the question of how God, being in omnipotence, can strive for something, desire something.

  18. The short answer is no, but it doesn't matter.

    But here's the long one: this question is not new at all, and was discussed by philosophers and theologians back in the 6th century. Philosophers like Thomas Aquinas have struggled with the meaning of the word “almighty.” There are philosophers, among them Peter Damian, an 11th-century monastic church leader, who believed that God can do absolutely anything (omnia possit), that is, even do what is not logical. In this sense, God can both make this stone and lift it up. And just because we don't understand it doesn't mean that God can't do it; from this point of view, God's vision transcends logic.

    However, most theists now reject this view of omnipotence. Instead, it suggests something else – God can do everything that is logically possible.

    This means that he can not make a round square, then creating an object that the creator himself can not lift is something that anyone can do on a snowy day-go and make a snowman:)

    However, God can create any stone, and any stone can also be raised. It can't fail in either the first or the second. God cannot be capable of being unable to do both. It sounds complicated, I'll explain right now.

    God cannot participate in anything that he does (if it is LV (logically possible)). The only thing he can't do is be unable to succeed at anything (LV).

    This question asks if God can succeed in not being able to do anything. This one is like telling someone who just got 100% on a test that they couldn't get a single wrong answer.

    This question is incorrectly posed. What can't God do? He can lift any stone, he can create any stone. The question assumes that in the set of all possible stones, there is at least one stone that God cannot lift. But there is no such stone! God can lift any stone. And this is not because the set of all stones lacks this stone, just that no stone fits the description “too heavy for God to lift”. This is an impossible rock. That is, God cannot create a non-possible stone.

    If God can create any stone, and lift up any stone, then what kind of stone are we talking about? There is no such stone and there can be no such thing. The question requires that almighty God fail in his inability not to do something.

    I hope I was able to help you.

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